
70 Years Strong?
Was this the vision?
This year Camp Gan Yisroel is celebrating 70 years. But is there a reason to celebrate?
I invite everyone to join this thread to discuss:
What was the true vision of camp?
Does today's camp fulfill that vision?
Is being staff in camp "a Shlichus?"
Is the ultimate goal that there should be shorter summer break and/or Yeshiva during the summer?
What are the main flaws and issues of the mainstream Lubavitch camp, and how do those issues bleed into our culture?
If camp is an institution that needs to exist (for people's parnassa etc.) what can practically be done to improve it?
In the words of Bentzi Avtzon: "Let's Begin."
The Beginning of an End - Chayolei
I’ll begin this eloquent thread by pinching salt on an open wound.
Sadly, an encroaching mushroom we’ve all watched from afar turned into a megalodon. And it's swallowing innocent children in its wake.
Obviously, it started sha shtil, staying organic by only attracting members and close members of its own tribe. And once they were on their feet, just a few years later - they reared their ugly head and began to galvanize.
They rallied up its cousin Oholei Torah along with other CH schools - through means of bribery. They splurged discount coupons to assimilate the parents. Soon enough, the fringe Mosad “Chayolei Hamelech” moistened into a behemoth that is sucking the light out of our precious Gan Yisroel.
This pathogen infiltrated our greatest strongholds. “I sent my kids to Chayolei” a respected figure once told me. I was quick to correct him – “Chayolei hamelech hamoshiach shlita.” He looked amused, “Actually, it's CGI Chayolei.” At that moment I realised something far worse: the cavity hit the root and destroyed it.
We’re numb, and our leaders return a gashing silence.
The Real Problem With CGI Chayolei Is Not What They Believe, It Is That They Will Drop Belief Altogether
The most disturbing issue with CGI Chayolei, formerly known as Chayolei Hamelech, has nothing to do with being meshichist or not meshichist. That debate is a distraction. The real issue is far more serious.
The problem is that the camp has demonstrated that it does not actually stand for anything.
For years, Chayolei Hamelech was openly and unapologetically meshichist. That was not a side detail. It was central to the camp’s identity, messaging, songs, language, and culture. Parents who sent their children there knew exactly what the camp represented. Campers knew what they were being immersed in. Whether one agreed with it or not, there was at least honesty.
Then, when it became clear that this identity limited growth and revenue, the belief was dropped almost overnight. The name “Hamelech” was removed. The branding was softened. The ideological edge was sanded down. All in the name of bringing in more people.
That moment should trouble everyone, no matter their beliefs.
Because this was not a gradual theological evolution or a thoughtful reexamination of beliefs. It was a business decision. And when an institution is willing to discard its core identity instantly for broader appeal, it raises an unavoidable question. If they were willing to abandon their deepest beliefs for money once, what else are they willing to abandon?
This is not about disagreeing with meshichistim. One can be strongly opposed to it and still recognize that what happened here is alarming. Values are only meaningful when they cost something. The moment values are treated as optional branding choices, they stop being values and become marketing tools.
Imagine a parallel example. Suppose a long established non meshichist camp like Detroit suddenly announced that it was becoming meshichist because it realized it could attract more campers and donors that way. No one would take them seriously afterward. Even people who support meshichist views would not trust them, because the shift would clearly be transactional, not ideological.
Identity that can be flipped on and off depending on market conditions is not identity at all.
Chinuch institutions shape children. They do not just provide activities and supervision. They model what commitment looks like. When children see that beliefs are disposable and principles are negotiable, that lesson sinks in far deeper than any speech or program.
The most dangerous message here is not theological. It is moral. It teaches that conviction is optional, that truth is flexible, and that success justifies abandoning whatever once mattered.
If CGI Chayolei wants trust, the question is not which ideology they choose. The question is whether they actually believe in anything strongly enough to stand by it when it costs them.
Until that question is answered, trust cannot be rebuilt.
Today it is a name change. Tomorrow it is a message shift. At that point, one is forced to ask, only half joking, whether Christianity would be the next profitable rebrand if the numbers worked.
The master game plan of CGI chayolei
What started as an off-brand, openly hardcore meshichist outpost—Camp Chayolei Hamelech, for kids from broken homes, complete with “Yechi” plastered on every yarmulke, T-shirt, and lineup—suddenly went “mainstream.” First, they quietly dropped the “Hamelech.” Then the Yechi vanished from the merchandise. Finally, the ultimate camouflage: rebranding as CGI Chayolei, slipping seamlessly into the official Gan Israel network as if it had always belonged there.
And everyone bought it. Record enrollments. Massive expansions. Endorsements pouring in from the Mosdos—Oholei Torah, ULY, etc. Parents gushed about the “balanced” ruchniyus, the affordability, the chayus. Hundreds of innocent kids from regular, mainstream, non-meshichist homes now filled the bunks every summer.
But here’s the chilling truth: this “moderation” is a calculated long-game deception.
They never abandoned the meshichistim. They just went underground. The leadership, the staff, the inner circle—still the same devoted die-hard meshichistim. They learned that shouting it from the rooftops scared people away. So they stopped shouting… for now.
Phase One: Infiltrate. Blend in. Become indispensable. Make the camp so big, so popular, so “mainstream” that no one can touch it.
Phase Two: Dominate. Flood the market until every frum Lubavitch family feels they have no real alternative.
Phase Three: Brainwash. Start brainwashing these young innocent children with meshichist ideology, thus turning the next generation of Lubavitch into fervent tzfatis. Just wait and you'll see....
R' Cheftza Brings up a good point. Only the chayolei directors aren't smart enough to come up with it...
R' Cheftza brings up a svara that "CGI" Chayolei is in the middle of a 3 step plan to bring their ideology to the next generation.
He suggests that they want to
1. Infiltrate
2. Dominate
Brainwash
However, I don't believe that a camp that isn't able to coordinate basic activities in camp, that can't ensure that their buses have brakes, can't ensure that their staff are safe, and can't ensure that their learning teachers can read the Aleph Beis, is organizing an elaborate scheme to brainwash the next generation.
And even if they had the capabilities to think past step one, they would need to actually believe in what they teach, which they don't...
I'm not making fun at all of meshichtim, but rather bringing attention to a camp which is ideologically homeless.
Did not intend for this to become a Chayolei discussion...
It's not a master plan by Chayolei as much as it is a master plan by Oholei Torah.
Oholei Torah is one of the largest and most respected mosdos in Crown Heights. The reason they are endorsing this camp is because they see it as a way to control Crown Heights, and by default, Lubavitch. Large grounds and subsidized tuition is a way to attract most of their student body to the camp. Once most of their school is going there, they can coordinate with the camp (which needs their endorsement and money) to make the summer break shorter. Once the CH Yeshivos shorten their summer breaks, the rest of Lubavitch camps will be compelled to conform as well. The next step will be for OT to make attending Chayolei mandatory to return for the next school year as they did with YKP 8th grade for students who want to return for Mesivta.
In a few years, a child starting OT will be in their school, camp, Yeshivas Kayitz, Mesivta, and Zal. Oholei Torah'nicks will be in their own bubble of reality, only meeting others outside of the bubble when the bubble expands in Shiur Daled[1].
I'm waiting for the Oholei Torah Kollel to open up.
